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Do you think the government is being honest about how ebola spreads?

Yes, it's only through direct contact with infected bodily fluids to your mucous membranes
No, infected bodily fluids touching you anywhere on your skin can transmit the disease
No, it can survive in large droplets and infect you from up to 3 feet away
No, it can survive in small particles and infect you from up to 6 feet away
No, it can spread from 7+ feet away

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2014, 06:04:35 PM »
This interview is with an alleged survivor of Ebola named Dr Richard Sacra. I have two observations about this.
1. He looks remarkably fit for someone who was recently treated for Ebola
2. He seems to hesitate at the 1:02 mark when he says "On day six of my.......illness" almost like he had trouble spitting out the lie.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-cycle/watch/ebola-outbreak-more-than-a-health-crisis-333517891875#_public_

I don't think is all that simple...  ???

Richard Sacra, a Massachusetts physician who was infected with Ebola in Liberia, was released from the same Nebraska hospital on Sept. 25 after being treated there for three weeks. Dr. Sacra was given a research drug called TKM-Ebola, which inhibits the virus’ ability to replicate and was also treated with plasma from another Ebola survivor, according to the hospital.

Concern over Dr. Sacra’s condition arose over the weekend when he was admitted with a respiratory infection to the UMass Memorial Medical Center, but laboratory tests done by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control found Mr. Sacra didn’t have a recurrence of the Ebola virus.

Mr. Mukpo had been working in Liberia for two years with a nonprofit organization and then returned in September as a freelance journalist. His parents tried to dissuade him, but Mr. Mukpo had made a strong connection with the Liberian people and “felt compelled to go back,” said his father, Mitchell Levy, director of Rhode Island Hospital’s division of critical care, pulmonary and sleep medicine. Dr. Levy is also a professor of medicine at Brown University in Providence, R.I.

NBC News, which hired Mr. Mukpo as a cameraman on Sept. 30, the day before his symptoms developed, reported that it was helping the family to arrange for his transport home Sunday by air ambulance.

Mr. Mukpo has said he wasn’t sure how he contracted the virus. He said that while on assignment for another outlet, he was lightly splashed in the face by a liquid he couldn’t identify as he helped a taxi driver spray disinfectant on a car that had carried an Ebola patient.  ???

Who pays the bill for non profit organizations & the lab rats that work there  ???

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2014, 10:01:10 PM »
I don't think it's being spread by vaccine.
I DO believe it's a man made virus that's now loose in the wild.

Correct.

Look, fellow patriots - Ebola is being spread by stupidity. Intentional or not, why question their motives? Who cares? It's their fault that it's spreading either way, isn't it? ???

Why is it so hard to let go of laying blame? I ask: "Who cares!?" Man made or not, spread intentionally or not, why does that matter at this point? Are we trying to place blame, or are we still concerned with preparing ourselves for what these assholes have done to us? ???

Why do we always have to believe that those "in control" (of what? I would ask ::)) are actually IN CONTROL; and we have to believe, for some reason, that everything that goes in this World is what THEY planned or what THEY wanted. WHY? :o  Why on Earth do we ascribe omnipotence to these incompetent jerks? Why is it so impossible to believe that 'they' are IN CONTROL OF NOTHING?! Sure, they do anything and everything they can to take advantage of every situation, regardless of the situation. So? That doesn't mean they CAUSED anything to happen - they are, in fact, 95% of the time, only reacting to what they didn't expect! Same as us! :o

I don't know how much this argument really matters or how much my opinion on any of it matters to anyone one way or the other, but I certainly don't think this is the right time to have a debate over who did what to how many.. - We've been on to these clowns for decades, haven't we? - Now, it's just simply time to be prepared.

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2014, 12:26:07 AM »
So it turns out 1 out of roughly 20 cases doesn't present symptoms until between 21 and 42 days.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ebola-who-cites-cases-longer-incubation-period-42-days-1470326

This is huge news because it affects every quarantine done everywhere. If people think they're clear after a 21 day quarantine and then come down with symptoms a week or two after, they'll think they have a regular cold or flu and probably go to work anyways, take a bus, fly in a plane, etc.

This needs to get publicized badly!
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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2014, 03:03:07 AM »
My dad told me today he read an article about the Pres. authorizing bringing early-stage ebola infected west African nationals to the U.S. for treatment.

I thought he was pulling my leg.

Nope. Here it is...

http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2014/10/18/report-obama-planning-to-bring-ebolainfected-foreigners-to-us-for-treatment-n1906958

So my question is: If and when west African nationals are brought to the U.S. for Ebola treatment, how is this not an act of deliberate and thoughtful treason by the president?
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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2014, 04:41:39 PM »
So my question is: If and when west African nationals are brought to the U.S. for Ebola treatment, how is this not an act of deliberate and thoughtful treason by the president?

It clearly is treason. This whole situation is treasonous on many levels.

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2014, 10:21:04 AM »
Obama deleted the whitehouse petition to ban air travel to the three affected ebola countries.

Last I checked it had 47,000 signatures and was within 3,000 or so of hitting the upgraded number that obligated a response. How is this a government of the people, by the people and for the people if those in charge delete the will of 50,000 concerned citizens?

http://www.infowars.com/white-house-deletes-petition-to-stop-ebola/

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2014, 10:24:29 AM »
Obama deleted the whitehouse petition to ban air travel to the three affected ebola countries.

Last I checked it had 47,000 signatures and was within 3,000 or so of hitting the upgraded number that obligated a response. How is this a government of the people, by the people and for the people if those in charge delete the will of 50,000 concerned citizens?

http://www.infowars.com/white-house-deletes-petition-to-stop-ebola/

The petition system was never meant to give the people any say or power of any kind what-so-ever. The system was put there to give you the illusion that you have some say. You don't. You never did. It's just another ploy to deceive you into giving those in power even more power over you. That is all. >:(

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2014, 11:39:37 AM »
@deeply Agreed. Just like the puppet show between Democrat and Republican is meant to play the people against each other as the corporations that put the politicians in office pull the strings and get them to vote their corporate will any time anything of substance is up for vote.

More and more I am thinking we are heading directly into a very bloody, very violent revolution.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
John F. Kennedy

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2014, 01:23:56 PM »
+1  ;)

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2014, 02:01:34 PM »
Re: Ebola UpdateGuess who's afraid of flying  :-[
More than 2,150 flights operated by leading German air carrier Lufthansa have been affected by a 35-hour strike that began on Monday, just hours after a weekend of devastating rail strikes across the country.

Lufthansa says 200,000 people have been hit by the strike, although the company has assured it has found replacement pilots for around a third of the canceled flights. Vereinigung Cockpit (VC) which numbers just over half of the airline’s 10,000 pilots, called the eighth strike this year, which is impacting short-haul flights on Monday, and long-haul on Tuesday.

VC is demanding that Europe’s biggest airline maintain its current employment protocols, which allow pilots to retire at 55 on 60 percent of their salary, before claiming a full pension at 65.

“Regrettably Lufthansa has not acted on the compromise proposals of VC after seven strikes now since April this year and is stonewalling," said a statement from the union.  :-[

More than 2,150 flights operated by leading German air carrier Lufthansa have been affected by a 35-hour strike that began on Monday, just hours after a weekend of devastating rail strikes across the country.

Lufthansa says 200,000 people have been hit by the strike, although the company has assured it has found replacement pilots for around a third of the canceled flights. Vereinigung Cockpit (VC) which numbers just over half of the airline’s 10,000 pilots, called the eighth strike this year, which is impacting short-haul flights on Monday, and long-haul on Tuesday.

VC is demanding that Europe’s biggest airline maintain its current employment protocols, which allow pilots to retire at 55 on 60 percent of their salary, before claiming a full pension at 65.

“Regrettably Lufthansa has not acted on the compromise proposals of VC after seven strikes now since April this year and is stonewalling," said a statement from the union.

A man/lady can't even go Apsou!!! in the cocpit anymore before gettin a gesundheit
and a needle...

Wow  :o

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2014, 10:36:28 AM »
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-plane-passenger-hospitalized-after-screening/

Keeping an eye on these. I was expecting a crush of wealthier west Africans trying to escape before the pressure from the citizens forces obola to ban air travel completely. He'll probably do it just before midterm elections to boost the dems chances of re-election but in the meantime were temperature screening foreign nationals who might not get a fever for another 40 days.

And that's not even taking into account the fact that purposely infected radical Mus lim terr orists have probably already slipped through from Mexico.

Holy porous borders Batman!

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2014, 01:12:50 PM »
Summary of the eRumor: 
A video on the Internet from an unnamed person that suggests that a behind-the-scenes look at the languages Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew reveals that in the Bible in Luke 10:18, Jesus may have revealed the name of the Antichrist. The video suggests that it’s Barack Obama.
 
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The Antichrist, according to many Christian teachers, is a person who will fulfill Biblical prophesy by becoming a powerful leader in the world but will be an evil ruler, a false messiah, a person who is either against or the opposite of Jesus Christ.

TuthOrFiction.com has not found any scholar of Greek, Aramaic, or Hebrew who can vouch for the interpretation of Luke 10:18 pointing to Barack Obama.

The video is based entirely on the verse in Luke 10:18, in which Jesus says, “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” KJV

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2014, 01:12:36 AM »
I watched a video tonight on the history channel about the bubonic plague in the 1300s. I learned some things that I think will definitely apply during the ebola pandemic.

1) Bubonic plague spread first in densely populated urban centers and a long major trade routes. We're seeing the same thing today in the modern world by seeing ebola carried by car (towards the Ivory Coast) and airplane (to Europe and the USA). The plague needs a certain population density in order to really take off and what strikes me is pretty much the most densely urban areas are the ones that the United States is still allowing flights into: Washington DC, Chicago, New York, etc. Ebola will totally spread in places like these.

2) The second thing that I learned from watching the show is that people really look for something or someone to blame. In Europe they burned thousands of Jews at the stake and also there was a group of religious zealots called the flagellates (because they would whip themselves). So we'll probably see religious fruitcakes pop up left and right claiming that God is making Ebola spread because of something humans have done and we may also see certain ethnic groups targeted.

3) The third thing that I learned was that the upper-class like knights survived a little bit more frequently than the peasants because they were rich enough to be able to move out of town and kind of hole up in the countryside. This is kind of in the modern-day like having a bug out retreat but it didn't necessarily mean that you would be able to stay there indefinitely. After the plague was over (and it took most of a decade to burn out) all of the rich people had to start farming the land themselves because they were so few peasants left. Most had never done that kind of work before. So do yourself a favor and start a garden ASAP. Learn what grows where you live. Build raised beds and irrigation off of 50 gallon rain barrels that collect from your drain spouts.

4) There were military groups that would come through and pillage the houses of the dead, rape and kill, sometimes because they were hungry, sometimes because they were depressed about being one of the 25% who lived through it and sometimes on order from a foreign country looking to score during anyone when their enemies were down and out. You need to have several ways to defend yourself, your family and your food stash. You need to train with your loved ones on what to do if a person or group comes into your neighborhood and starts going house to house. You need to train with your weapon once a month or more. Have lots of ammo pre-stockpiled in a few locations in your home. The time to train is not when they have your wife and kid tied to a chair in the next room.

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2014, 10:03:21 AM »
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0IB23220141022?irpc=932

Numbers of infected massively under reported and its spreading along major trade routes...

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2014, 10:26:05 AM »
Good post SicSemperTyrannis. I have been looking for some of them numbers.

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Re: Ebola Update
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2014, 04:06:25 PM »
Doctor who treated Ebola patients rushed to NYC hospital

http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/

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The Big Apple may have its first case of Ebola.

A 33-year-old Doctors Without Borders physician who treated Ebola patients in Guinea and returned to New York City 10 days ago was rushed in an ambulance with police escorts from his Harlem home to Bellevue Hospital on Thursday, sources said.

Craig Spencer was suffering from Ebola-like symptoms — a 103-degree fever and nausea, sources said.

http://www.youtube.com/v/-VZHQ-GCdHQ&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/HTlQ_x9uE8c&fs=1

But don't worry - I'm sure the Ebola Czar has this all under control.. ::)

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« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2014, 05:31:44 PM »
Statement On Suspect Ebola Case From Dr. Howard Zucker, Acting Commissioner, New York State Department of Health

http://www.health.ny.gov/press/releases/2014/2014-10-23_ebola_statement.htm

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The state Department of Health is closely monitoring this potential case and is working with the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene and the Federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to ensure that all appropriate protocols are being followed to protect public health and safety.

This patient is undergoing testing at Bellevue Hospital, which is one of the eight hospitals statewide that Governor Cuomo designated earlier this month as part of his Ebola Preparedness Plan to handle potential cases.

That facility is prepared and equipped for theisolation, identification, and treatment of any such patients.

Preliminary test results are expected to be completed in the next 12 hours.

It is important to remember that the symptoms exhibited by this patient can be indicative of other illnesses and that there is no confirmed case at this time.