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« on: January 21, 2016, 12:17:06 PM »
I honestly think civil war is inevitable... our country is split into two factions... and the split is wider than ever and widening daily... we have patriots and on the other side we have socialists... those who believe in America and those who hate America... how do you reconcile?

Agreed, even though as Americans both parties has ignored the Constitution and trampled all over the BOR, which by that vary nature We the People has had the right to stand up against tyranny and the elected who are corrupt and no longer represent We the People and the interest of We the People.

When our government prepares against the people, micro manages the people and actually thinks We the People answers to them again there is justification.  But because of the very nature of Sheeple, We the People must patiently wait, if the people are the aggressors there will be little support from the people.

This is why the government must continue to be the aggressors, as long as it is, there will come a point in time when the government oversteps it's boundaries which in a defensive mode Patriots will gain more support from the people.

This is why Oath Keepers and III% ers are acting as a buffer to assure the refuge won't do anything stupid and if the Feds act out in an aggressive manner that sooner or later alternative media will report the truth.  If the Feds are the aggressors I am afraid that a Civil War will be sooner rather than later.

Even though it is useless to have a reasonable dialog with our representatives it is imperative they hear our voices, no more Free Waco's and they need to intervene to assure they hold the leash of their hoods.   

You wouldn't want those horses to run around freely flatulating and adding to the already out of control global warming climate change issues, according to the dumbest of the dumbest people on the planet, the only issues they seem to focus on are ones that don't exist, and the real problems we face don't get mentioned.

People just don't or don't want to  understand how this relates to Agenda 21 and global control.  We the people are to stupid to self govern and we need the intelligence of the Globalist/NWO to govern us, LMAO.

Who will control the land of our sovereign Nation, us or them?  This is were the American people need to wake up.

Economic Collapse / Re: Signs and portents aplenty.
« on: January 16, 2016, 09:30:57 AM »
Boy was i wrong.... Thought for sure there would be a small rebound....

Reminding you that I am no Economic expert, lol, I'm sure we will see minimal rebounds or a few days of growth.  TPTB can't allow the people/investors to loose hope.  Take 5 steps back then one step forward!

False Flags / Terrorist Attacks / Re: Showdown/standoff in Oregon
« on: January 14, 2016, 07:59:43 AM »
froderik, good post.  We have to stand against Agenda-21 which is tied directly into Ranching and Farming, we just need people leading that are not suspicious.

nyt, just that you don't confuse my stance (flip flopping), I stand with and support the cause, but not Payne and Copper.  Personally I'd like to see about 20 plus of these stand offs across the Nation, this would really draw attention.  One for every state, no two for every state...

General News/Discussion / Re: Be sure to comfort the bankers on friday!
« on: January 08, 2016, 12:46:40 PM »
Do you think the bankers would catch the humor?  lol

Economic Collapse / Re: Agent provocateurs, anyone?
« on: January 08, 2016, 12:35:16 PM »
Federal take over of the lands (BLM), Eminent Domain (Corporate) or the EPA being dominant over private land, all are a power grab going against the grain of what our nation represents.

Their strategy is a means to take away from a Free Society and place wealth and "control" into the hands of the Government. This is taken right from the manifest of the Marxist Doctrine. Converting a free society to a Socialist, Communist and or a Marxist government.

Below are the 10 points laid out by Karl Marx.
Consider them and consider where the nation is today in reference to each.
Then, consider for each of the points which of our political parties advocate for policies and programs to achieve the stated goals.
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

10. Free education for all children in public schools.

...the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.
We Communists have been reproached with the desire of abolishing the right of personally acquiring property as the fruit of a man's own labour, which property is alleged to be the groundwork of all personal freedom, activity and independence.
Hard-won, self-acquired, self-earned property! Do you mean the property of petty artisan and of the small peasant, a form of property that preceded the bourgeois form? There is no need to abolish that; the development of industry has to a great extent already destroyed it, and is still destroying it daily...

So are the BLM (Federal) land grabs (one of)the means to the end of their master plan? Is this just one more chest move?

Maybe we need to remember the (their) big picture, the (their) agenda. Instead of focusing on this one event we need to remember the (their) big picture.

Economic Collapse / Re: Agent provocateurs, anyone?
« on: January 07, 2016, 09:15:30 PM »
Here is a 28 min video, this is one of the best explanations explaining the Hammond's situation.

After watching this you have to wonder why America isn't standing up with a passion.  Would you say this issue is a just cause?  Now the question is, is this the right battle ?

Maybe the problem is that this battle, you have a (wrong) leadership with questionable motives, baiting the Patriot movement into a fight at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Prepping Tips / Re: What Are The Safest Places To Reside In The U.S.?
« on: January 05, 2016, 10:46:26 AM »
agreed Cujo... once you plan on TAKING others stuff you become a part of MY problem... and there are quite a few of me out there... you really do not want me as your enemy...

I knew we'd be on the same page!

infinitum post is a good post, thank you for the info.  There is a history here, personally I'd enjoy seeing about a hundred of these stand offs just in an attempt to bring this out into the lime light.

Most people will not take the time to research the injustices, they turn on the news and see's a one way spin.  What they saw at the Bundy Ranch was the BLM/LEO's tasering protesters and their attack dogs turned on the protesters.  What America saw was a taped off area for a Free Speech Zone, livestock shot and confiscated and Government snipers intimidating the Bundy family.  This got the attention of the American people.

With all the unjust at the Hammond Ranch America is not seeing the above vivid pictures on TV and will not take the time to research.  What is behind this stand off, Uranium, Gold, mining rights to China?  Or is it wrapped up into Agenda-21 and it's enforcement?

they were found guilty by a jury of their piers.

That is what I said, they were found guilty.

Prepping Tips / Re: What Are The Safest Places To Reside In The U.S.?
« on: January 05, 2016, 05:58:00 AM »
When it comes to looting and pillaging these places are going to have things that i could use.

A responsible prepper puts himself into a position of self reliance by preparing.  Since you are admitting that you will resort to looting you could find yourself having a short life span once shtf.  You see responsible people will attempt to protect their AO and surroundings.   

                                         Thru out history General has bypassed battles to fight the right battle.

Who is to say this is the right battle?  It is true tyranny is at our doors and has been here quite awhile, the time at Bundy ranch was a just stand.  The Bundy ranch had Federal LEO's threatening the families by placing family members in there scopes, illegal seizures of there cattle.  An attempt to get them off their land and to remove grazing rights for the greed of Harry Reed and the Chinese.  The Bundy's asked for help and America responded, they had American support.

The Hammond's also may have fallen to the shenanigans of the federal government, I personally feel they were shafted, but is this the battle at this time we need to choose?  It's hard to say!  The Hammond's made no public plea for help, in fact asked for no type of stand off.  There was no federal snipers with their family in the cross hairs, corrupted or not, they were found guilty by a jury of their piers.

There are some differences, there are questions within the patriot community as well, suspicions of the militia leaders in play.  They were scrutinized by their actions from the Bundy ranch.  This was to be only a protest, yet within a minutes notice the BLM office is taken over and provisions for a year is in place?

This takes place at the very moment O is to meet with L Lynch on Gun Control and help O sell in UN Constitutional acts, such convenient timing! 

I for one feel that these land grabs by a tyrannical government needs to stop and reparations be made hole.  But unless there is support by the people as there was at the Bundy ranch it will be the wrong fight.  Look, a fight is coming our way, get ready in your own AO, we need to do it in our terms not theirs.

As far as a bomber or drone strike, those there would become martyrs  and most likely unite more American's than they feds could imagine!

Personal disclaimer, seriously:  I am not anti government, I am pro government which is restrained by the Constitution and the people.  I am not anti government but I am anti corrupt and bloated government.

Prepping Tips / Re: What Are The Safest Places To Reside In The U.S.?
« on: January 04, 2016, 07:07:47 AM »
whats up Cujo... missed you... if I were closer to some of the commies here now... ugggggg... talk talk talk... we both know what that gets us... maybe I should open a boot camp for idiots lol

It has felt good breaking the links of the net, I'll call you this week.

PF, I understood where you were coming from, the way your thoughts were worded gave me pause, just for a second though.  You are right, let common sense prevail, here is the problem, many will watch a you tube video and it stops there.  People need to practice what they learn in order to improve on prior to shtf.  I've slept on the ground with just a poncho and or tarp, for one, two or three nights is one thing but long term is another.

This is were nyt advice comes into play.

and ability... training is sooo important... there are many places across this country where you can find a group to slip into, but what would that group be without you? that is a question you must ask... We all have special abilities you need to hone yours....

Groups can be self sufficient so what can you add... no one wants an ill prepared individual unless they need labor... and you better pray you have a skill they need... couch potatoes need not apply....

You, we, need yo have a worth, a skill or working knowledge to offer.

Prepping Tips / Re: What Are The Safest Places To Reside In The U.S.?
« on: January 02, 2016, 08:06:37 AM »
Here is a fun topic!  The safest place is where you have security, security is numbers, numbers are the amount of like minded people in support of one another.  You can be in a Rural area, just you the wife and kids, are you safe?  How long can the husband and wife last standing guard 24/7/365 days?  Then there is farming and maintenance of the camp.

I know you're thinking it's easier said than done, you're right it's not easy finding others that would fit into your camp.  But it can be done, it takes hard work, time and discipline.  Then there is qualifying those who want to join you, remember this first, people follow leaders!  To lead is not being a Drill Instructor in boot camp, it's setting up minimum requirements and developing a self motivated team.

Set up minimum requirements such as 1 or 2 years of food, personal hygiene, weapons and ammo, a means to be self efficient ect...

You're still thinking it's easier said then done, right?  Like myself and others I know we have been working on the above for 1 to 8 years, it takes time and what helped me was socializing with conservative and Constitutional groups like the Oath Keepers, affiliating with Militia's, 2A supporters, Tea Party and 9-12 groups, I believe the term used is networking!

Obviously a Rural area is more secure, but regardless it comes down to organization and numbers.

Economic Collapse / Re: 2016 finical forecast
« on: December 31, 2015, 11:38:03 AM »
lmao... you two need to get a room... and some socker boppers...

Anyway, silver will start its trend up... I believe... it will be held back but it will be pushing up, the only reason it will be down is through the actions of the manipulators... I think though they will have their hands busy with other more important things such as managing this crash landing... buy time is now... there may be periods of two to three months that the market will even seem to recover... but... it will not last long... if in fact it goes down any-much further, you can expect a rubber band effect upwards directly after...

xwired you are right on...

nyt's opening line was hilarious, not jabbing at RC or Deeply you both are great.

A few years ago I would be worked up into a panic with each warning or prediction, now the attitude is so what!  It's already started, we know it's going to be devastating and on top of an economic collapse we will be in for a fight to preserve or restore our Constitution.  We know it's coming we just don't know to what extent or when we will feel it the most. 

So just stay the course and continue to prepare.   

General News/Discussion / Re: Clinton Comes Out For Pre-Crime Ban On Guns
« on: December 17, 2015, 10:47:47 AM »
Before I comment I would like to apologize for my absence, but with reason.  The last 6 weeks has been enjoying some normalcy. 

If elected the stage is set, Pre-Crime Ban, the we have the answer to the following question already.  Define a Pre-Crime?  I would expect if individuals have weapons guns and believe in conservative and or Constitutional values that they would fall into this category.

nyt is right, if you have not given much thought as to what side you fall on, maybe the time is now.  If you choose not to own a gun, remember when shtf it just might be someone who does that just might save your life.  You still can support the 2A.

Time for some Political Incorrectness

Merry Christmas to everyone  ;D

Prepping Tips / Re: A suggestion of something to barter with when SHTF
« on: November 11, 2015, 09:43:27 PM »
Place one or two butts in a sealed can, open in a day or two.  The stench is strong, keep a pack and barter fresh cigs or cut in quarters.

Good info, may I add

* Take time to travel your route (s), stop at bridges along your route (s) take "Risk Factor" notes and pictures.  Look for ambush points, is there a way around it or a place to cross to approach those wanting to do you harm from behind.  Log your info and anticipate danger spots ahead of time.

* To many think they will be able to jump in their vehicles and just drive with their supplies to a promise land.  The reality is expect to have to hike it, so get in shape, map out your routes near water resources and have your bug out Ruck ready to go.  Next what if you have to hike it?  If you do not use your imagination and pre position your life sustaining supplies ahead of time I have two words for you, You're Screwed"!

* Have food that does not require cooking and will not give off an aroma.  The main meal entree (pouches) from MRE's, Survival tablets.  Carry on your person survival gear like 50 foot of fishing line, 18 various sized hooks and a few sinkers.  A 3 prong frog gig and snaring line along with 100 foot of 550 cord.  Throw in a Rat trap which also can be used for trapping and as a trip line for security.  Now you can fish spear and snare.

* Travel if possible in a small caravan with a vehicle a 1/2 mile ahead riding point and one 1/2 as rear guard if possible.

* People just can't assume they can drive from point A to point B to their promise land.  Prepare and expect the worst.

General News/Discussion / X22 Interviews James Wesley, Rawles
« on: September 16, 2015, 06:38:46 AM »
All I will say for now is that I loved it and great job Dave.

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